PATRICK: Chris, youíre wrong that I donít support charter schools. As important as charter schools are and as helpful as they are, we need to come up with a different and better funding mechanism before we raise the cap.
REILLY: Deval, if there was a moratorium proposed by the legislature, to curb any growth in charter schools, would you sign that legislation? I wouldnít. I think Chris would veto it.
GABRIELI: I would veto it.
REILLY: Would you veto it?
PATRICK: Yes, but listen, weíve got to be serious about funding. The formula works in theory, but in real life, there are real tensions between real families and that is not community building and that is not advancing ed reform.
REILLY: Itís a matter of giving parents choice, give them a choice.
PATRICK: I think we need to be managing down the cost of healthcare for everybody. We have an opportunity--and indeed a mandate--with that new health reform bill. Some of the ideas that I want to pursue are:
REILLY: Well, Deval, you should say thereís a lack of curiosity to the people of my staff who are working around the clock, night and day, to get to the bottom of this, going through hundreds of thousands of records. They are making progress, substantial progress. The Big Dig, and the problem with that, is a series of Republican governors who have tied my hands. But despite that, we have recovered and saved $75 million of tax-payersí money, plus six people under criminal indictment.
PATRICK: I think first of all, the point about the clarity of ideas, and the depth of them. I want to point out that weíve put out ideas over the last year, very specific plans for how to move Massachusetts forward. But the edge I think that I bring is leadership that includes government, but also business also non-profits, and also community groups. Iíve gotten results in every one of those contexts and no one else in this race has this range of leadership experience. Thatís one difference. Another difference is that I run a campaign that is about inviting people who have checked out to check back in, whatever their political philosophy and wherever they are in the commonwealth. And I think that brings a different kind of power, a people power, a grassroots power to Beacon Hill. Unless we change that culture with that kind of power, all bets are off.
PATRICK: Small wonder people say, give me my money back. But the tax to cut, is the property tax. Thatís the one squeezing people, and the only way to do that is to that is to restore state aid to cities and towns. And the only way to do that is to postpone the income tax and invest in ourselves.
REILLY: No one has a right on taxes to substitute your judgment for the will of the voters.
GABRIELI: I disagree with Deval [as saying] ďhereís what you canít do.Ē Iíve put forward a can-do plan: We can cut the income tax by taking 40% of income growth [towards tax cuts], and leave 40% in there for continuing local aid and investments. But I can hold down the property taxes just as well. I donít think we should ignore the voters.
The above quotations are from Massachusetts Democratic Primary gubernatorial debate on CBS4 news, moderated by Jon Keller, Sept. 13, 2006.
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